My calculations have returned.

They indicate that you should use SS, ES, and KS glyphs as survival.

what about serpent sting?

Oops, that's what I meant by SS.

Fucking spells having the same acronym!

why is kill shot better than steady shot? not to make you do more work, but i like to know the reasoning behind things

To be fair, I didn't actually know anything about these glyphs when I stated the above; I just looked at some Simulation Craft stuff.

Upon further investigation, however, GoKS does seem lacking. It's great if the 20% phase of a fight is really long, but honestly with all the executes (drain soul, +% damage, etc.), the 20% phase is usually pretty short. For a fight like Rotface though, I suppose it would be better to burst your DPS towards the end, but those fights aren't terribly common.

That being said, fights with lots of adds do benefit from GoKS. There are several targets that get to under 20% that you can use it on, and a 15 second cooldown may be too long (e.g., on Saurfang, you may be able to use KS twice per round of blood beasts instead of just once).

Overall, for sustained DPS, I'd say Serpent Sting, Steady Shot, and Explosive Shot. Likely, your final DPS number will be higher. But with GoKS, you'll kill adds quicker (sometimes, when it's not a matter of AoE), and bosses with enrages at 20% or so will die quicker during the "hard part". Rotface is a great example where more KS would be beneficial.

So I guess it depends what you want. If you do elect to use GoKS for the reasons above, the question then becomes: Steady Shot or Explosive Shot? Here's a great post on that:



So, it depends on your gear.

yeah deepees, that's the post i read which started my initial question. thanks for the additional input everybody. looks like i have to do what i was avoiding by posting my question. mathstuffs.

yeah, the % increase in dps is lower the more crit you have, but looking at number and not % i think ES is better.

looking at more parses, ES damage stays between 37-40% of a hunters damage in all fights. Steady Shot ranges between 10-17% on most fights, and on some its even lower.

I guess ill have to sit down and do the math, fml

ok, so i bit the bullet and switched out my GoES for GoSS for 10s last night. from what i can tell, my dps actually stayed about the same. which means, i think, that it will actually go up in 25s. i'll be testing it tonight.